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This Waterproof Coat Doesn't Use Gore-Tex (And That's a Good Thing)
I've always been fascinated by the discussion around Gore-Tex effectiveness and the idea of using a membrane in a coat for waterproofness has never sat well with me. As such I've been using an alternative to Gore-Tex for 20 years (I got the fleece in the old photos in the video when I was about 18) that I think is fascinating in the way it works and they are still quite an underdog in the outdoor waterproof coat scene.
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  • @sexyschnidden9702
    @sexyschnidden9702 Годину тому

    It's funny. My parents always wanted to teach me to walk with my heel first, but it never felt natural to me. I still have it a lil internalized, but just walk how it feels best

  • @warwickdutnell7151
    @warwickdutnell7151 12 годин тому

    So basically, nobody knows how to walk correctly

  • @user-bn1ew7lg1b
    @user-bn1ew7lg1b 14 годин тому

    NKRO? 5:39 it doesn't look like he is chording; I assume that means it is not NKRO.

  • @jamieeddolls5605
    @jamieeddolls5605 14 годин тому

    8:30 isn't he heel striking here though?

  • @zulu9812
    @zulu9812 15 годин тому

    Your every-day-carry pocket kit is £295 +postage. Holy shit you must be made of money.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 13 годин тому

      If only! The expensive items were gifts over several years actually. The torch and zippo are cheap.

    • @zulu9812
      @zulu9812 13 годин тому

      @@BenVallack They might have been gifts. Doesn't matter. Someone replicating this would need to spend £295 +postage. Maybe the expensive items were 'gifts' from companies for you to advertise. But that would be very cynical of me.

  • @ivanz1811
    @ivanz1811 17 годин тому

    Can I count walking barefoot at home or wearing flipflops in the street as using barefoot shoes? I think it is all so artificial. Don't wear much fat sneakers, fat soules with heals and pointed shoes and you are fine. Go barefoot at home and on sandy beaches and grass and you are fine. The rest is a money scam. Just buy some affordable shoes with thin soles in your local shop and that is it.

  • @JoseBrowne
    @JoseBrowne 19 годин тому

    Anyone else having issues with homerow mod tapping term? If i set it too low accidentally trigger hold key more often.. set it too high accidentally trigger tap more often. Actually considering shifting all the keys up a row and using the bottom keys for modifiers to avoid using dual function keys all together. Anyone else have this issue?

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 19 годин тому

      It is tricky and it is common, to some degree you do need to try and keep the dwell time on your rolls consistently low so you can avoid triggering the holds.

    • @JoseBrowne
      @JoseBrowne 14 годин тому

      @@BenVallack Right. Which i've noticed is easier to do when i'm just doing typing tests where my focus is on speed. But much harder to do when my mind is else where (ie. coding). Does everyone just accept that this will happen from time to time? Or do you eventually build up enough consistency to make this a non issue?

  • @camptube7621
    @camptube7621 20 годин тому

    I lose my phone. A lot. The most used feature of my ultra 2 😂

  • @jonabub
    @jonabub День тому

    "That means, the air inside the coat can never be dryer than the air outside the coat" is utter bs since it completely neglects the temperature differential. since your body always produces heat, this heat can be used to dry the air within the coat even in high humidity conditions outside the coat, as long as there is a temperature differential. This is famously put into effect in ecwcs gen 3 suits but known by anybody in rainy countries such as UK or Ireland who heats up their home in order to drive off humidity that could cause mold.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      To dry out the inside the vapour needs to leave the coat. You're correct in that a temperature difference will make the moisture want to leave the membrane - but the problem is if the air is 100% RH on the cooler air outside - it will turn to liquid as it tries to leave when it hits the cooler membrane. Some might still escape and turn to condensation on the outside of course so this is a simplified argument - but as far as I can see if the temperature is equal then you won't get any transfer (no vapour pressure gradient) but if the temperature is different you will get the vapour pressure gradient but then you get condensation! The situation I'm talking about is only when it's actually raining and the outside air is at 100% RH. If the air is dryer then it can accept the leaving vapour without it condensing.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      Heating your house prevents condensation on walls, it doesn't make the air any 'dryer'. It technically reduces the relative humidity due hotter air being able to hold more moisture in the air - but that same moisture is still in the air. Warmer walls means less condensation and warmer air means a higher dew point. That's why you get less mould when warming the house - if I understand it all correctly! To remove moisture from the air, those vapour molecules have to go somewhere.

    • @jonabub
      @jonabub День тому

      ​@@BenVallack It's a great argument, i have to admit. And i suppose it would largely depend on your defenition of "dryer". Since hot air with the same amount of vapour would still have a lower saturation than cold air, i.e. feel dryer and be able to absorb more additional humidity from sweat a.s.o.

    • @jonabub
      @jonabub День тому

      @@BenVallack Yes, if the saturation is at 100% outside and if this is accompanied by a temperature differential the vapour from inside will tend to condensate outside. But since the vapour needs to cool down first this will not necessarily be immediate. Also whether the vapour has to be driven off through a membrane or just pushed out with movement and replaced with less humid air that then heats up is depending on the structure of the clothing or isolation. I tend to prefer "fluffier" and more open clothing such as a fleece for that matter since it allows for good air flow. Although windy conditions would make a combination with a less breathable and more air tight fabric necessary. In windy conditions in turn there is almost never a 100% saturation and the vapour would be dispersed before it gets to condensate. I suppose since we are looking for dry feeling rather than saturation levels the best clothing is a function of temperature gradient as well as breathability. Gor Tex is bad at both and only marketing. Ecwcs and similar systems work best for me but i think paramo fits in there somewhere.

    • @jonabub
      @jonabub День тому

      @@BenVallack Anyway, great brain tease for this time of day. Was fun negotiating that. Thanks for this.

  • @goibh
    @goibh День тому

    Have you considered a wool overcoat? I find them very practical for walking around, most of the year, here in Ireland, but they are bulky and a bit heavy, so they wouldn't be any use for jogging etc. They're great for damp, cold, blustery weather and if you're popping indoors for a minute, you can just keep it open, for plenty of ventilation. A pocket, trekking umbrella is handy for heavy rain.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      Yeah love the idea actually - especially for around town where the Paramo looks a bit geeky! I really want a WeatherWool coat.

  • @1PageAtATime
    @1PageAtATime День тому

    Just get a decent barbour, avoid the ones made outside the U.k.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      Yeah I was interested in the UK Barbours - I did try a foreign one and it failed just after a year (fabric tore like paper!). So I'm done with them now. It was also like a plastic bag in terms of condensation. I like the style but the comfort just can't touch Paramo gear.

  • @felixtrefzer3893
    @felixtrefzer3893 День тому

    The problem with that shit is the amount of mikro Partikel they produce in your washing machine. Get yourself a wax coated jacket. Works great and will last forever.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      Literally just sold a Barbour as spares or repairs - it tore open like paper after just over a year.

  • @archadeinteriors
    @archadeinteriors День тому

    welcome to the 'everyone write a paragraph' comment section

  • @ahhhabee
    @ahhhabee День тому

    I have to ask, what makes you so interested in optimizing these aspects of your life?

    • @SurrogateActivities
      @SurrogateActivities День тому

      tism

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      Better than blindly following whatever the biggest corporate marketing budget comes up with right?

    • @ahhhabee
      @ahhhabee День тому

      @@BenVallack yeah, but besides spite, what really motivates you to do what you do? where does that inspiration come from? I love what you do and I just wanna know where it's coming from

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      @@ahhhabee​​⁠I'm kind of obsessive so I kind of find myself getting super fascinated by stuff and then going all the way down the rabbit hole! I don't think I'd call it spite in terms if rejecting big marketing stuff - it is what it is - it's just that there's usually something more interesting if you dig deeper.

  • @someguy8419
    @someguy8419 День тому

    Thanks for hitting the actual lesser known tricks instead of the same ones every other video keeps repeating. This definitely increased my interest a bit.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      Thanks! There are a LOT of copycat videos in this niche. A few weeks after I made this one someone did more or less a word for word remake!

  • @zmuzzy101
    @zmuzzy101 День тому

    I love my shakedry jacket for cycling and haven't found anything better or even comparable but I coulf be swayed towards paramo for hiking where getting so hot isnt as big a factor and lightness is the main downside for me. My current hiking raincoat is a non breathable single skin jacket by frogg toggs called the Xtreme Light. Its brilliant as an extremely lightweight emergency rain protection and is like a much less breathable shake dry.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      Yeah Shakedry is very cool. I think the Paramo and Shakdry combo is a versatile pair. I sold all the old coats I had hanging around to justify the Helki so I'm left with the Paramo, Shakedry and a down jacket (the black one seen in some of the vids I did recently, it was about £20 on Vinted!). The issue with the down jacket is we often have wet and cold weather in the UK so I think I'd like to get the Paramo insulator that is designed to be worn over the top of the normal paramo and it doesn't matter if it gets wet.

  • @BicycleForHealth
    @BicycleForHealth День тому

    Breathable raincoats do not exist for active wear. It's nonsense. Lose your money to advertisement. Enjoy sweating.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack День тому

      Yeah kind of depends how active you are and what the ambient temp is. In cooler weather and not hugely active I'm very comfortable in the Paramo.

  • @stevebeschakis9775
    @stevebeschakis9775 День тому

    Silly.

  • @gabrielbevan-rt5yl
    @gabrielbevan-rt5yl 2 дні тому

    Great video, there's some very helpful things to learn. I want to walk as naturally as possible which is heal striking, i don't want to compensate for the unnatural surface and walk unnaturally. I don't run because i have bad knees and i got into wearing more minimalist shoes because of problems with my feet. I wear Altra Escalante which have a zero drop and a big toe box and they have a thicker sole than minimalist shoes which means i can walk naturally comfortably without feeling the impact too much on my heel. I've wanted to give vivobarefoots a try for some time and because i only walk i will still do so because although a lot of surfaces are unnaturally firm my heel will not be striking so hard.

  • @CallidusVelox
    @CallidusVelox 2 дні тому

    I've been walking with a forefoot strike for about a year now. It feels very awkward for the first few months, mostly, I think, because I had a tendency to exaggerate it at first and I felt and looked like I was trying to sneak around, but I'm more-or-less used to it now, and the foot falls very nearly flat, as the video mentioned earlier, only contrary to his "heel sets down gently" it the forefoot that sets down gently with the heel very slightly held off the ground. At this point my heel only sets down when stationary for stability. My feet no longer hurt after longer walks as they tended to when heel striking, and so far no complications. I think if you can push past the initial awkwardness and tendency to exhaggerate the movement, the forefoot strike does seem to be better.

  • @ianrobertson1667
    @ianrobertson1667 2 дні тому

    Weight is a really important consideration for hikers, runners etc. How does the weight of the Analogy technology compare to Gore-Tex?? My hunch is they are super heavy?

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 2 дні тому

      They have some quite light ones actually these days - the Velez is 600g. It's definitely a bit heavier though - but than means it's better at insulating in colder temps too (but of course that could be a negative in warmer temps too).

  • @pandemik0
    @pandemik0 2 дні тому

    The cybertruck's lack of a flat roof is solveable by elevated rack or even a hinging one. I think this is more about integrating a tend with the tonneau cover. How do you stow a tend below it that can do the job of a roof top tent? It's and odd problem unique to the cybertruck but I don't think it's not practical. Just odd.

  • @ivangh94
    @ivangh94 2 дні тому

    Once you get used to minimalist shoes you never want to go back to "normal" foot wearing.

  • @tim.w5630
    @tim.w5630 2 дні тому

    I also have a Paramo Alta III for winter time and I love it. But honestly, as soon as it gets over ~15°C outside, you just cannot handle the thick, warm and heavy fabric that is the nature of Analogy products. This is where I still use my ultra light GoreTex (packlite) jacket. It also seems that you have quite a lot of money to blow on waterproof jackets. Paramo solutions (and GoreTex Shakedry) hover around 300 to 400£, which is a notable sum considering GoreTex starts at around 180£ (with cheaper membrane products around the 100£ mark). Not everyone has the money to "buy into" Paramo products. I hope that with popularity they will get a bit more affordeable without sacrificing on labor conditions and the environment. Cheers!

    • @MrGreenAKAguci00
      @MrGreenAKAguci00 2 дні тому

      Yeah... let's hope that the processes get streamlined, economy of scale will kick in and the prices will drop.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 2 дні тому

      I consider Paramo to be cheaper than Gore-tex actually - the Helki was £240. I just had a quick look on Arctreyx and saw plenty of Gore-Tex coats £400-£500!

    • @MrGreenAKAguci00
      @MrGreenAKAguci00 День тому

      @BenVallack my hardshell Saleva goretex jacket that saved my ass a bunch of times in rain during warmer months and wet snow mixed with rain or freezing rain in winter was 160 EUR. It kept me fairly dry too (although I do have good base layers etc.) even while skiing, hiking, or riding a bike. I was just on the Paramo website their cheapest jacket is 320 EUR. Does it deliver twice the performance?

  • @petergoodall6258
    @petergoodall6258 2 дні тому

    Cost more than my car

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 2 дні тому

      Wait until you see the price of Gore-Tex! The Helki cost me £240 and I expect it to perform well for 20 years.

    • @tim.w5630
      @tim.w5630 2 дні тому

      Thats for shure a real problem. Especially considering that you cannot wear it year round, because it's quite a warm jacket, the price is really steep. But I think my for my usecase it was worth it. Your mileage may vary

  • @appuser
    @appuser 2 дні тому

    It's like you pre-empted my need to get a new coat... I'll be checking them out. Thanks for the tip Ben! As always, making life work better.

  • @tristanpaquette842
    @tristanpaquette842 2 дні тому

    some time i like to run on the street barefoot

  • @markthompson2466
    @markthompson2466 2 дні тому

    I wouldn't be seen drowned to death in one

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 2 дні тому

      lol yeah fashion isn't their strong point that's for sure

  • @thomasjacques5286
    @thomasjacques5286 2 дні тому

    Outs just started acting up (press MAX it shuts off) so I bought a cheapo replacement battery off e-bay. So far it’s like new again for $50. Maybe we got lucky.

  • @michbus7440
    @michbus7440 2 дні тому

    For everyone complaining it's expensive, I got Geweo for 30€ and they are just as good.

  • @KNURKonesur
    @KNURKonesur 2 дні тому

    How does that compare to a Buffalo with Pertex?

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 2 дні тому

      I think they are more for really cold and wet situations. They keep you warm even when wet, and are designed to be worn next to skin. I don't think they claim to have any directional behaviour. Less practical as an everyday coat if you have to be naked under it!

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos 2 дні тому

    Over time, all of my winter jackets seemed to lose their ability to repel water. I suspect that is because a waterproof spray coating fails over time with washing and exposure to rain. The "breathable membrane" material doesn't seem to fail. Nonetheless, the jackets become sopping messes. Not 100% sure what was happening.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 2 дні тому

      Yeah the impact of face fabric DWR failing seems to be pretty serious. I do wonder if it's things like seems and de-lamination that goes on as well. The problem with the membrane approach is that a single failure anywhere on the jacket can have a pretty serious impact!

  • @comanchedase
    @comanchedase 2 дні тому

    Human condom

  • @James-wd9ib
    @James-wd9ib 2 дні тому

    Ben, I noticed your right foot comes down centerline turned outwards quite a lot. I'm guessing something's up with either your left leg or your lower back...

  • @MacDork
    @MacDork 3 дні тому

    Have you any need for a metal mirror? They make great signaling devices, too. And flat.

  • @dfgdfg_
    @dfgdfg_ 3 дні тому

    The jacket in the video is the HELKI

  • @humbertoacastillo
    @humbertoacastillo 3 дні тому

    Great review! I love my lilly58pro, this looks like a great alternative!

  • @johnkarakelle
    @johnkarakelle 3 дні тому

    Which Paramo is that??

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 3 дні тому

      Helki - more details here ua-cam.com/video/jYru9LtWZCA/v-deo.htmlsi=AJ90hqut81qJWa3L

  • @AX-fx7ng
    @AX-fx7ng 3 дні тому

    Missed your videos :0

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 3 дні тому

      Releasing weekly again now 😀Friday at 6pm UK time.

  • @aalthukair
    @aalthukair 3 дні тому

    legend

  • @tanvach
    @tanvach 3 дні тому

    I really wish we can more easily get Paramo products in the US. I've heard about their jackets for a while now, but have to wait until I visit the UK in the future to buy one.

    • @tim.w5630
      @tim.w5630 2 дні тому

      And in Switzerland (and rest of europe) please. I only got my Paramo because we went to England for a month. They should scale up their distribution capabilities asap

  • @aatj
    @aatj 3 дні тому

    Have you tried waxed cotton clothing for outdoor waterproofing?

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 3 дні тому

      I did try a Barbour. It tore just after the warranty expired so that was that! Also I would say it's as breathable as a plastic bag even when not raining!

    • @aatj
      @aatj 3 дні тому

      @@BenVallack Right: I use a waxed cotton brimmed hat, but that's the extent of it. I'll try one of these coats,

  • @Texas240
    @Texas240 3 дні тому

    3:57 I wear barefoot shoes (or boots with as little drop as possible when I'm working) and never had a problem with walking, landing with a normal heal strike, in barefoot shoes. That's after having been raised on the thick healed type running shoes. The thing is, when you wear barefoot, or zero drop thin soled, shoes, the rest of your foot and leg muscles will begin to do what they're designed to do to walk "normally". The fact is that the foot, ankle, legs, and knees were designed to walk or run a certain way and zero drop footwear with room for the toes to splay helps that happen.

  • @hanshans387
    @hanshans387 3 дні тому

    Great vid, I love Paramo! For a similar brand check out Buffalo Systems based in Sheffield - they have a similar philosophy to Paramo. If you're going to be in the rain all day long you're going to get wet no matter what, so they make clothing that'll keep you warm even when wet and let your breath - most of my climbing kit is Paramo or Buffalo and they pair well with each other!

  • @user-pinky3272
    @user-pinky3272 3 дні тому

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  • @mcteags
    @mcteags 3 дні тому

    I ended up getting this keyboard and am still transitioning. One change I made was swapping the switches to twilight ambient silent linears. They are so much quieter. Highly recommend!

  • @Ian..
    @Ian.. 3 дні тому

    I’m a fan of ventile fabric. No chemical coating required.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 3 дні тому

      Someone else commented that this comes with a DWR from the factory these days - would like to get the bottom of that.

  • @RC-qf3mp
    @RC-qf3mp 3 дні тому

    I have a heavy duty poncho/cape, which i can open up for airing out, and it has vent holes. I can hike in all-day rain for weeks.

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 3 дні тому

      Yeah I reckon that is a good approach for ongoing situations like that!

    • @davemitas
      @davemitas 2 дні тому

      I once read a comment/reply posted on a forum: "The best raincoat you can buy is an umbrella"😂. To that end, my sketch book got a couple pages dedicated to toying with a coat that aired like an umbrella. Coats hang by gravity on shoulders and back unless you are a sailor on a trapeze. How bout a suitable material ( 3d airated foam?/ 3d plastic wire lattice?) around shoulders, upper back and hood to create an air gap, then maybe a battery fan to push moist air out of poncho style vents?

    • @RC-qf3mp
      @RC-qf3mp 2 дні тому

      @@davemitas umbrellas are good for non windy conditions and to protect from sun, but no good in windy downpours.

    • @davemitas
      @davemitas 2 дні тому

      @RC Yep. 100% agree on umbrella, hence the idea of air gap coat. Of course I'm just focusing on the moist warm air egress, the waterproofness from rain is its own issue. Rate of excersion is also key. Here's my current modus operandi: I've given up skiing in anything other than bluebird sunshine and whilst I still wear water proof pants in the morning for sitting on the potentially icy chairlift, by lunch I ski in cheap hoody and slick outer track pants so if I do fall(virtually never), snow doesn't stick, therefore stays dry. This combo doesn't stop me sweating, but within minutes I'm feeling totally dry for my next run!

  • @leerv.
    @leerv. 3 дні тому

    The location of R and S in Colemak does indeed take a while to become second nature. QWERTY has ingrained us against it; but in my opinion the change is definitely worth it, that RST trigram is so satisfying :)

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 3 дні тому

      I'm still on the fence about if it's actually worth it! I'm finding ISRT a bit frustrating at speed now!

  • @colink2967
    @colink2967 4 дні тому

    Ok but then also like a towel or any clothes for that matter it will eventually be full of water and be much worse than the gore tex which will never allow any water to pass or seep into the fabric

    • @BenVallack
      @BenVallack 3 дні тому

      It's very unlikely to completely get soaked, even after you take it out of the washing machine it's remarkably dry. There are plenty of people who get soaked in Gore-tex and the face fabrics absolutely can get soaked.